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NB is ready to give four-day week a try PDF Print E-mail
Wednesday, 03 March 2010

By MaryHelen Swanson
Last week, after months of research and hours of discussions, the North Branch Area Public Schools’ board of education came to a consensus that the district should try a four-day week schedule.

There was no formal vote as it was during a working session that the board members agreed such a schedule would be one major solution to the the $1.3 million deficit for the coming school year.

Superintendent Dr. Deb Henton went through a comprehensive power point showing how the district has come to this decision.

As she has done with every presentation on the four-day week, she opened by noting that three things lead to this consideration: declining enrollment, flat funding from the state and the failure of an operating levy. She reminded all once again that she said a year ago if these conditions existed by budget time that the district would consider an alternative schedule.

Because these three conditions existed late last fall and because there is that $1.3 million deficit looming, administration proceeded with a serious consideration for the four-day week.

Public meetings brought many parents, community members and business people together recently. Both sides of the issue have been vocal, but Dr. Henton believes that those favoring the four-day week were somewhat reluctant to speak up at the public meetings.

Last Thursday was the first time building administrators and special program directors responded to the board on the subject.

They included Asst. High School Principal Lora O’Hern, Middle School Principal Todd Tetzlaff, Sunrise River School Principal Jason Hartmann, ALC Director Lori Zimmerman, Activities Director Mike Cunningham and Community Education Director Jeanne Leland.

Generally speaking, these leaders said their staffs were in support of the four-day schedule. O’Hern noted that the desire at the high school was to provide a comprehensive program to all students, and there was concern about continued staff cuts and increasing class sizes.

Tetzlaff noted support from his staff also, again, class size being the major concern. He noted that the fifth day could be very advantageous for additional help and services to students. The alternate schedule would prevent the loss of programs and staff, he believes.

More personally, he noted that he has three children in the NB schools and they love it. He said they won’t love it any less in four days.

Hartmann said his staff feels the four-day is a workable solution, and they have communicated  a “we can make it happen” attitude.

He also talked about the advantages of the fifth day for targeted services.

Cunningham noted that there is a lot of support among the extracurricular folks, but it’s not unanimous. But he told the board that he has learned that once an activity is gone it is almost impossible to bring it back. An alternative may have been cutting those activities.

The four-day week will be inconvenient, he said, but he assured the board his programs and coaches could make it work.

In talking with ADs from Warroad and MACCRAY,  where they have four-day weeks, Cunningham learned that they did not see a drop in the competitive process.

“We can make it work!” was the statement over and over from principals and directors that night.

Leland noted that she initially thought the four-day week would be the demise of Community Ed, but after she participated in committees, researched and talked with community members, she decided the program could operate successfully.

She spoke of the after school programs for children saying “we have safe places in our community” for that fifth day.

She also shared her personal story of her family’s struggle in difficult times, to show that she does know what local families are going through.

“We can make it work” summed up all their voices.

Following words of assurance from finance director Randi Johnson that the district may actually see savings of more than the announced $156,000 through the four-day week, Dr. Henton presented her recommendation.

She said the administration has listened to the people, as she presented a second option for the four-day schedule that included adding only 45 minutes to each day, instead of one hour. It would add four days to the school year, and reduce the savings about $23,000, but it addresses some parents’ concerns for their younger students.

 School would start at 7:45 a.m. for the high school students, 8 a.m. for the elementary students.

The question was posed  “If not this what?”

There will be cuts in teachers even if the four-day week is implemented, but if something isn’t done those cuts will be harsher, including three full-time equivalent positions each at the high school and middle school, and that would undoubtedly increase class sizes even more. Two weeks ago, high school teacher Cha Bettendorf noted that class size is already pushing 40.

In addition, according to last week’s presentation, without a solution like the four-day week, there will more than likely be reduced opportunities and fewer elective options, as well as reduced vocational/technical opportunities.

Among the board members there was visible sadness and regret that the North Branch district had to come to this.

It was particularly hard because state funding is not the same for NB as many other districts.

Member Jeanne Walz was very reluctant to say yes to the proposal, citing the fact that there would be cuts anyway, and expressing concern about the children, particularly the fatigue factor.

Supt. Henton noted that the fatigue level is already high on teachers who have to have more and more kids in their classes.

Walz reminded the board that they are not considering this for the educational value of the students, but for the money. “I know we can make it work,” she said, her voice low. But she said she is struggling with it.

Henton, acknowledging Walz’ struggle, said she knows it hurts, but the decision has not been made in haste.”It’s been a hard year,” Dr. Henton said, adding it’s a hard time of year to be in district leadership.

Board member Kirby Ekstrom thanked administration for the positive outlook, saying he sees going to the four-day week as a positive step, adding it’s better to try and maybe fail than never to have tried at all. He can see the value if it keeps the staff reduction down to two, rather than four or six.

Sometimes change is a positive thing, he said.

Member Vicki McDougall’s concern was for the length of the trial, suggesting a pilot of one year.

And it would be, said Dr. Henton, noting that there will be no three to five year recommendation.

It has to be evaluated annually, the superintendent stressed, reminding them, though, that achievement will be difficult to gauge because there would not be any length of time to track it.

Chairwoman Kim Salo thought it important to give it a chance over cutting programs and teachers.

The board members gave the second option their approval and directed administration to provide a budget recommendation that includes the four-day week, with the option 2 calendar, and requiring an annual review of the schedule.

Board member John White was absent.

The school board will hear the full budget recommendation at a special meeting tomorrow night, March 4, at 7 p.m.

On March 11 at 6 p.m. there will be a public hearing on the budget recommendation followed by the regular school board meeting  at 7 p.m.

On March 18 the school board will hold a special meeting at 7 p.m. in room 204, at the Main Street School, to vote on the budget recommendation.





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oh boy: ...
My guess is this issue will be tabled until another referendum can be tossed out to the voting public. Scare the citizens into voting for more property tax money. If you think its hard to sell a house in this area now, just wait till they pass this. The school enrollment will drop even more, with less students, the district will receice less money from the state.....what's next, a 3 day school week?
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March 06, 2010
Deb: ...
It is call change, the change we all have been hearing about. NB schools had no choice but to do what they did which is a whole lot better than cutting more teachers. NB schools are no longer the great school they once were because of the taxpayers and who they vote in to the school board so if you are truly that unhappy about this then you better take better notes come next election. If you read anything besides the Post Review you would have read that NB is paving the way for the bigger schools to be able to do this (like Minneapolis school district), the 4 day school week is now going to be the "new" thing and you just wait, it will soon be norm to have a 4 day work week. I will be waiting to see enrollment numbers next year and see just how many whiny parents are really going to get up early to drive their kid to another school and then leave work early because the kid needs to be picked up from his "new" school because you are no longer eligible for bus transportation. I do not believe the numbers will be as great as they as whining about now, besides do you have a house to sell before you can pull your kids from NB schools, if yes; GOOD LUCK!
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March 07, 2010
Bethany: ...
As the mom of two young children, I am excited about this change! I think it will provide my family more opportunities to spend time together. I don't see it as a negative at all. I agree with Deb that this is a glimpse of the future of education and possibly business in general.

To those who say they'll take their kids elsewhere, I'm curious where you'll take them? Rush City and Cambridge are also looking at the 4-day schedule. Forest Lake and Chisago are only a few years behind North Branch in their struggle for funding.

I would, however, like to address Deb's comment that "NB schools are no longer the great school they once were...". Deb - I respectfully disagree. As a long time resident of this town, and former NB student, I know our teachers are providing our children an exceptional education despite the funding issues. My children are both thriving in their classrooms and they are learning much more at their tender age than we did in 1st and 3rd grade. I'm very proud of our teachers and our school.
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March 08, 2010
oh boy: ...
As a matter of fact I do have a house to sell. I was not "whining" about the 4 day week. I was voicing my displeasure about the tactics the school districts use to try and get their agenda passed. Is this budget shortfall a surprise? Maybe we didn't need a brand new spanking elementry school when there was no way to pay for it. Maybe we don't need a fleet of diesel pusher school busses. Look at the cost of operation of a gasoline powered vehicle compared to late model diesel busses. I found it a little difficult to swallow a referendum when the board voted to increase their pay by 5% last year. I talk to my friends in other parts of the country and the topic of my grade schooler being taught spanish, I have gotten anywhere from looks of disbelief, to outright laughing at the thought. Maybe cut or replace those teachers as a budget reduction. Oh and I already drive my kids to school everyday along with hundreds of other parents I see in the Sunrise parking lot. I guess the altered bus routes the district used as a scare tactic a few years ago didn't work either. Don't get me wrong I don't want the district to fail. I just think there needs to be more accountability when it comes to asking for, receiving and using our tax payer dollars.
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March 08, 2010
GG: ...
To Oh boy,

Why do you feel that these are scare tactics? It seems quite obvious to me that the district needs to reduce spending and they are constantly trying to find creative ways to do it with the least impact on kids possible.
The average board members earns about $2,000 per year. They attend meetings, seminars, negotiations, work sessions and put up with all the complaining from community members that don't really want to know what is going on they just want to complain. I think they should be paid a lot more.
How many school board meetings have you attended? Have you listened to any budget presentations? Have you looked at the website and reviewed the annual audit done by an outside firm? What more accountability do you want?
If you follow things at all you would realize that the levy to pay for the building (Sunrise River) has nothing to do with the operating budget. They are totally separate funds. Just becuase the district has to cut funds used to operate the schools doesn't mean that they don't need a building to put the students in.
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March 09, 2010
Wendy: ...
I am a new citizen of this community and I am AMAZED at the excessive amount of money that is being wasted in the school system and the whining that goes on that there isn't enough to support the school district. Really? What is the need for 5-6 school buildings in this town? It's not THAT big. And the money that is spent for your kid to be in a sport?? I remember paying a maximum of $35 per sport when I was in high school! Property taxes are OUTRAGEOUS in this community and I feel like people are not getting what they're paying for right now, so why would the people vote yes to increase taxes for a greedy district? And for all of you who did vote yes, who is stopping you from opening your checkbook and making a donation in the amount of what it would have cost you for the levy to go through?
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March 09, 2010
Kevin: ...
I too was one of the whiny ones. I decided to take a close look a funding and communication. Turns out the school is more efficient than many. As much as you want to be negative about our schools, we really are getting a pretty good bang for our buck. For those of you concerned about the 4 day week and wanting to move your child to another district, check out how many kids that district loses when their students move to another school. You might be surprised. The grass is always greener on the other side until you get to the other side. I have lived in this community for 8 years and feel we have very good schools with a qualty staff. I supoort the 4 day week. This district used to have a reputation for innovation and now they are getting back to it. Way to lead the way with progressive thinking.
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March 09, 2010
Kevin: ...
I have been in the district for 7 years and moved here because of their reputation for quality education and innovation. I have not been disappointed. I think the 4 day week will serve the district and our residents well. As far as comments about excessive amounts of money being wasted, I have not seen it and I have been looking. This school district is about as lean as it gets. This school does such a good job of communicating everything that goes on, I think it sometimes gets them in trouble. Everyone should be so honest.
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March 09, 2010
Sue Jacobsen: ...
I support the decision, Wendy those of us who voted yes and even those who voted no have no choice but to open our checkbooks....Your comment is pretty humorous...
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March 09, 2010
Deb: ...
I have to agree accountability still needs to be done it just is not going to stop the district from going to a 4 day week, like I said earlier we are all seeing the "change" everyone has been talking about. Maybe with the 4 day week and some accountability (some more payroll freezes and laying off or cutting of support staff that DO NOT affect the classroom) we can see our schools get back to the great ones they once were.

@Bethany, Do not get me wrong we still have good teachers dedicated to their students but NB schools are now on the bottom of top schools and when I was a student in NB, the schools were in the top 10 in the state. Any parent of elementary age students should be very proud of our schools but Bethany I see that is all you have, wait until your children hit MS or HS then let me know what you think of our schools especially if this downturn continues and maybe your children are not "thriving" so much anymore. I have 2 children in the district, one 5th grade (who attended private school until 4th grade) and one in 11th grade, two total different educations going on and if your child ever struggles hope it is in the early years because once they get out of elementary they are on their own. I have personally experienced some very not so professional teachers and administration in both the MS and HS that the least thing important to them is your child's education. Good example, my son took and passed the "state mandated" tests but his great counselor could not find that information until about a month ago, so he has had my son in a 2 hour long daily class to help him pass these tests........TOTALLY WASTED HIS EDUCATION, by simply not doing his job, you can not tell me that these tests results are not easily accessible since you must have them to graduate. I personally feel it is the leadership that has brought the schools down, Mr. James Walker did not make nearly the amount of money that Deb Henton makes and we had better schools, my personal opinion is the "Super" has not earned her entitlement to a $130K salary and benefits, our financial director (what an awesome job she has done "estimating") is another good source of too much salary. I agree that all contracts should be opened and reviewed and if one of them doesn't like it oh well, go find another job as I am sure there is probably 10 waiting for the chance to fill yours.
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March 10, 2010
GG: ...
Deb,

What support staff would you suggest be layed off that doesn't affect kids? People need to stop generallizing and be specific. Too often the general statements made just have no basis in fact.

You're kidding yourself if you think NB schools are anywhere near the top. With all of the cuts that have been made over the last 10 years we don't have near the programs other districts do and our class sizes are much larger.

Rather than just complain on this website hopefully you talked to the principal regarding your sons situtation.

Yes, Walker was a very good sup and didn't make anywhere near $130k but that was 15 years ago, no sup was making that kind of money. The question is what is the going rate for a sup today? I am willing to bet that $130k is about the middle of the pack. People need to get over the fact that a woman has the education and experience to lead a $35 M operation with over 250 employees and 3600 students. She is trying to provide the best possible education for the students with the limited resources she has been given.

As for the finance director, what would you expect her to do other than estimate? If you don't know what your enrollement will be, don't know what the cost of fuel or utilities will be, don't know what negotiated contracts will be settled at and don't know how much the state is going to give you what can you do except estimate? If you have a crystal ball that answers these quesions I am sure she would be glad to hear from you.
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March 10, 2010
Realistic: ...
Deb,

I've always noticed that the loudest complainers are generally the least likely people to actually know what they are talking about. Have you ever shadowed the superintendent to find out what she does? Ever pored over a massive school budget looking for savings line by line, all the while protecting the district from sanction, and basing budgets on estimates in enrollment, state funding, and 20 other unknowns?

I'm guessing not.

I have seen our district leaders in action many, many times. They save the district many times their own salaries each year. They have acted responsibly, cutting $10 million in the last five or six years. Their thanks for responsible management is to get blasted by well-meaning people to be sure, but people who have no concept of the expertise and knowledge required to effectively run an operation the size of our district.

Let's try to remember that the people who run our district are people to. They care deeply about taking care of our kids. Their kids go to school here just like yours. They didn't ask for the problems the state has put on us, they are just trying to deal with it the best way they know how. Disagreeing is fine, but right now the ONLY solutions I'm seeing are from the ones suffering the complaints.

If complaining about the district and attacking the people who run it could fund education, North Branch would have the richest district in the state.
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March 10, 2010
R: ...
I grew up in North Branch and remember the school of yester year. This is not the school that my children are attending. I moved back to North Branch so my children would have the same education that I received. I am happy to say that I am moving. I never thought I would be so happy to say that. For families with two parents where there is more flexability sure this plan may sound great. But I can say as a divorced, "single" mother of three, I NEED to work 5 days a week. That extra day I will be paying more for daycare for my children as will so many more parents. And the parents with kids too old for daycare what do those 13 years old do??? I know what we tried to do back in the day on days we had off school.
I am not going to point fingers, I just wish that North Branch schools would not have fallen as much as they have. It is very sad.
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March 10, 2010
unbelievable: ...
Deb,

With the delivery of your comments perhaps your bad experiences are because of your approach.

All districts have parents who whine about bad experiences with teachers..we've had them in my district too. But that really has no bearing on the conundrum the district is facing. Sitting around, complaining, whining, demanding people lose salaries and/or jobs, bad mouthing the schools...what kind of person are you to complain but not know the facts.

People, mainly 'support staff', who work in the schools generally work with the kids. There are really no such things as useless 'support staff' unless those who work there are lazy and sit and gab all day with the teachers or other 'support staff'. And from my own experience this does not happen.

I happen to be 'support staff' in another district, my day is booked solid helping those who struggle in math and reading, helping kindergartners who struggle with letter names and sounds or writing their names correctly,I have a back to back schedule all day long. I am also responsible for weekly testing of those children, correcting papers when the kids are on field trips entering data on the computer and the list goes on. And lets not forget all those useless jobs such as caring for the children when they get hurt at recess, making sure they are all dressed appropriately for the weather, oh and lets not forget making sure they play safely on the playground equipment--breaking up fights, disciplining, figuring out who to believe in an argument...have I listed enough of what I do as a 'support staff'?

Don't assume that because people are called 'support staff' that they don't do anything to contribute to the children's education. In fact, those teachers I work with are very appreciative and very grateful for the help us 'support staff' give.

Bottom line? Whoever is getting cut now is going to hurt the district as well as the kids' ability to get help when they need it. You cut the superintendent, will you take over her job? If the financial guru is cut will you take over her job and I might add, would you do them for nothing or next to just so the community of North Branch will stop finding someone to blame? Don't dictate who should take a pay cut or get laid off until you live a day in the life.
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March 10, 2010
Deb: ...
I believe (remember this is MY opinion) that there are many clerical positions that can be combined, adjusted or cut saving the classroom from loosing a teacher adding more to another classroom or loosing a para in the classroom adding more to the teacher leaving them less time with ALL the kids in the classroom. Remember salaries have gone up EVERY year of these cuts to the classrooms! I understand that is realistic but remember this is PUBLIC education funded by the PUBLIC, what a private business does and how they cut is up to them, being a Public School the School Board is responsible for making sure it is doing the BEST thing possible with our funds, obviously continuing to increase their own pockets and their staffs was NOT the answer along with numerous other things. NB has had MANY years to adjust their spendng habits but they do not do anything until it is to late causing all the drastic changes we have experienced, that needs to change, as far as "estimating" goes I understand it is just a guideline but I feel there was enough information available the past few years that a better educated guess could have been made. The Governor has been warning everyone, the President has warned everyone but it is their fault because our officials didn't react and still counted on all the money they were warned they were not going to get, once again my opinion is to justify her wages and benefits, our financial director could have done a tad bit better of a job she has been in the position long enough to see a more clearer picture than what is present. My opinion, not a complaint, not a slam on any one person directly, the economy crashing changed everything drastically and quickly I understand that too but someone still has to be accountable!

Once again I am not here complaining, the school board did what it had to do and I understand and support that, I just hope they look at EVERYTHING now that makes the school function and get the BEST use out of all of it from now on. As far as following the Super around it is not my job, I elected officials to do that for me, but I definitely have done my fair share of research on the whole overall district and its spending. I would only guess that Mr James Walker had the same education etc. that the current Super has the difference then was his salary was frozen to be below the Governors, who ever fought to get that law changed is a good start for some finger pointing, our State is a FAR more complex entity to run, much more income, employees and taxpayers to be responsible for, so you tell me why any other top public employee should make more than him?!? Not to date myself but Mr Walker has been gone closer to 20 years with cuts starting shortly there after, obviously the later years seeing the deepest cuts, but my opinion is only because someone was not watching their budget and forecasts close enough.

I need to correct a previous sentence I wrote about NB being on the bottom of tops schools, I meant to write State schools, but yes they were once in the TOP 10 but I also understand that was 20 years ago! As far as actions I have taken with my son, more than I care to talk about, IF I could get a returned phone call or email returned I guess it would be a good start but like I said not everyone in the district is not doing their job as I have connected with a few that are now helping me look at all options available before removing my son from the district (thank goodness he will have his license in May!) but it was not without great effort that I found these few and exploring options before having NO CHOICE but to pull my son from the district.
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March 10, 2010
mc: ...
I think it is Ironic when you drive by the Main Street school and see the Maint Directors school truck parked next to his personal truck and they are almost exactly alike! He did pick it out himself too! He did not like the van the school gave him, so he got the okay to go out and buy a brand new Ford Ranger. It's a small thing, but it just goes to show you how they can sometimes spend to much on themselves.
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March 11, 2010
nj: ...
Deb...
Last time I checked, my son's scores for all of his state tests were sent to our house. I believe the high school counselor student ratio is about 600 to 1. What is the ratio in your house? I'm assuming you have a few children. If you have the answers to everything, why wouldn't you know your own son's test scores?
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March 13, 2010
Realistic: ...
Deb,

Judging by your last comment, I don't think you've done ANY research on the district or its spending.
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March 15, 2010
LeRoy Metz: ...
GG

GG or whatever your real name is.Your comment about the Super i find sexist and unfounded."People need to get over the fact that a women has the edudation and experience to bla bla bla" I thought it was 2010 not 1970.I hope you are not a teacher.
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March 17, 2010
Deb: ...
@nj actually no that child's report was not received and yes the others were. I invite Realistic to meet with me sometime, you might be surprised by some of the realistic stuff going on. 600 to 1 ratio, I bet they knew that was their responsibility when they took they job, at least I would hope so. I understand there are lots of kids needs that need to be met then they should have cut salaries amongst other things before they cut teachers, paras, and counselors. Remember this is America where every "still" has the right to their own opinion, the right to speak it and the right to disagree. All that matters now is that our school board and administrators have a HUGE job to do and I hope this time they choose to save the classrooms rather than their own pockets.
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March 17, 2010
Deb: ...
80% NON INSTRUCTIONAL CUTS....WAY TO GO NB SCHOOL BOARD!
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March 19, 2010

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